Ramba
05-19 02:31 PM
I 140 : approved last month
I 485 : July 07 filer passed 180 days
GC Process : Substition Labor / Future employment
The future employer is threatening to withdraw the I 140 if I dont comply with his financial terms.
I heard that if I 140 is approved and 485 is pending for 180 days, even if the employer withdraws I140 , there isn't much we need to worry. Is this true. currently on h1 which is expiring next month 6th. To convert to EAD do I need to do anything specific and send an update to USCIS?
Your case is tricky. AC21 may not protect you. First, your case is subsitution labor. That itself a negative factor. Second, your GC is for a future job. This means, you have not worked with sponser during non-immigrant status. As well as, you do not have intension to work for the sponsor after getting GC, as you have intension to invoke AC21. GC is for good faith intension in both parties(employer and employee) to have emplyment relationship after employee gets GC. As you have not worked for the sponser at any point of time, it is very difficult to prove that you have "good faith intension", if your employer withdraws the 140. It is not the AC21 issue, it is mostly the intension issue.
Also you mentioned that there is a financial issue. If your employer is not able to pay the salary for your position as per 140, then it is a geneune reason for him to withdraw. Then the 140 may become a misrepesentation. On the other hand, if employer willing to pay the 140 salary and if you are not accepting, then it clearly establishes that you have no intension of working for him at that salary. So, in this case AC21 will not applicable.
I 485 : July 07 filer passed 180 days
GC Process : Substition Labor / Future employment
The future employer is threatening to withdraw the I 140 if I dont comply with his financial terms.
I heard that if I 140 is approved and 485 is pending for 180 days, even if the employer withdraws I140 , there isn't much we need to worry. Is this true. currently on h1 which is expiring next month 6th. To convert to EAD do I need to do anything specific and send an update to USCIS?
Your case is tricky. AC21 may not protect you. First, your case is subsitution labor. That itself a negative factor. Second, your GC is for a future job. This means, you have not worked with sponser during non-immigrant status. As well as, you do not have intension to work for the sponsor after getting GC, as you have intension to invoke AC21. GC is for good faith intension in both parties(employer and employee) to have emplyment relationship after employee gets GC. As you have not worked for the sponser at any point of time, it is very difficult to prove that you have "good faith intension", if your employer withdraws the 140. It is not the AC21 issue, it is mostly the intension issue.
Also you mentioned that there is a financial issue. If your employer is not able to pay the salary for your position as per 140, then it is a geneune reason for him to withdraw. Then the 140 may become a misrepesentation. On the other hand, if employer willing to pay the 140 salary and if you are not accepting, then it clearly establishes that you have no intension of working for him at that salary. So, in this case AC21 will not applicable.
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nogc_noproblem
07-19 03:53 AM
Wow, the best reply I ever got on this subject. Thanks a lot.
Hope this helps :)
Hope this helps :)
coopheal
12-05 11:41 AM
While I have never worked on OS level, my company attorney has made a mistake. God knows why, but it is mentioned in my LC approval, the job code is: 15-1032 Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software :mad:
I found this link.
http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_stru.htm
I found this link.
http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_stru.htm
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November 30th, 2008, 03:34 PM
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vinzak
06-16 12:10 PM
I have often heard about visa recapture in these forums, and always that there were lost visa numbers. I came across a DHS site yesterday with statstics on GCs issued, and must admit I am a bit confused about what visa recapture means. The site is DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009 (http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR09.shtm) . Looking at table 6 (Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 2000 to 2009), we get the following data on EB and FB issuances.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
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06-21 05:03 PM
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Cheetah5
01-28 12:03 AM
Hi,..
My perm was applied in Apr audited and finally heard that my perm denied in July 2010.
Reason - travel language in the notice of filing but not on form 9089.
Attorney will be filing for an appeal. Do you think its a good option ? Also how long would it take to receive an answer?
As luck would have it , my H1-b 6 yrs expires in Nov -2010. However my company did apply for an extension to Oct 2011 based on my Perm. Now that my perm has been denied is that extension still valid?
thanks,..
My perm was applied in Apr audited and finally heard that my perm denied in July 2010.
Reason - travel language in the notice of filing but not on form 9089.
Attorney will be filing for an appeal. Do you think its a good option ? Also how long would it take to receive an answer?
As luck would have it , my H1-b 6 yrs expires in Nov -2010. However my company did apply for an extension to Oct 2011 based on my Perm. Now that my perm has been denied is that extension still valid?
thanks,..
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skalra
12-06 11:11 PM
- Based on personal experience and not a professional advice
- I am assuming your PD is not current yet
I have lots of friends who have applied their H1-B extension, even though their 140, EAD, FP, AP all are approved and 485 applied. Even in my case (I have everything listed above except 140), my lawyer was actually waiting for 140 to get approved so that I can get a 3 year extension, but then applied extension as 140 is taking too long. You may want to talk to another lawyer.
If what your lawyer says is true, then almost all ~300K July filers will be without H1-Bs after some time. ;) ;) ;)
- I am assuming your PD is not current yet
I have lots of friends who have applied their H1-B extension, even though their 140, EAD, FP, AP all are approved and 485 applied. Even in my case (I have everything listed above except 140), my lawyer was actually waiting for 140 to get approved so that I can get a 3 year extension, but then applied extension as 140 is taking too long. You may want to talk to another lawyer.
If what your lawyer says is true, then almost all ~300K July filers will be without H1-Bs after some time. ;) ;) ;)
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nixstor
10-25 08:46 AM
Yeah! You are right. I will post one too.
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speddi
09-14 10:20 AM
Thank you but the address listed is to Chicago. I will be sending to Texas Service Center. I couldnt find that address.
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new2gc
04-21 12:10 PM
Contributed a small amount for this cause....
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asdfgh
11-27 11:58 PM
Finished FP this morning. Got LUD on 485 45 mins after FP completion. Status language changed from
"The I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS was transferred and is now pending standard processing at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you...blah..blah..blah"
to
"On October 9, 2007, we transferred this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS to our LINCOLN, NE location for processing because they now have jurisdiction over the case...blah..blah..blah"
Then got second LUD this evening with a 11/28 date on it, even though it was still 11/27, even on East coast. No change in mesg.
Any thoughts???
"The I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS was transferred and is now pending standard processing at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you...blah..blah..blah"
to
"On October 9, 2007, we transferred this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS to our LINCOLN, NE location for processing because they now have jurisdiction over the case...blah..blah..blah"
Then got second LUD this evening with a 11/28 date on it, even though it was still 11/27, even on East coast. No change in mesg.
Any thoughts???
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dpp
02-06 09:01 PM
Whenever the H1 is transferred, H4 also has to be transferred.
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zCool
04-19 10:44 PM
All of us might have gone wailing in streets and still it would have been the same thing..
What happened last yr? in a word.. Senator Jeff Sessions from Alabama..
He's bought and paid for by racist anti-immigrant interest groups and no way he was going to be convinced based on merits of the argument!
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He's bought and paid for by racist anti-immigrant interest groups and no way he was going to be convinced based on merits of the argument!
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10-18 04:26 PM
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hazishak
08-01 09:28 AM
My wife is planning to go for H4 visa stamping in October. My question is can she go alone??????????? and what kind of documents she need. Our I-485 applications have reached USCIS on July 2nd. Any reply will be greatly appreciated.
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visa_reval
04-28 01:21 PM
Guys,
The person who started this thread is not even in a position to use AC21. Does anyone know if one can change employers with approved I-140 (I-485 not filed) and is in 7th year of h1b ?
The person who started this thread is not even in a position to use AC21. Does anyone know if one can change employers with approved I-140 (I-485 not filed) and is in 7th year of h1b ?
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pappu
11-21 12:27 PM
Bush just pardoned a Turkey - that Turkey could be a GC Holder very fast !!;) - I understand that it is headed to Baltimore - can the Balitmore chapter use it as a mascot ? !!!
No There is already a backlog of such amnesty turkeys from past years. They are all stuck in name checks.:D:D
No There is already a backlog of such amnesty turkeys from past years. They are all stuck in name checks.:D:D
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singhsa3
11-04 12:28 PM
Remind me again, why do we pay these attorney big dollars for??
This is one BIG STUPID mistake by your lawyer that can potentially ruin your life. I am hoping for the best for you on the other hand I wish the stupid attorney of yours should be sued in case your application is not accepted.
Hi, my 485 was rejected initially for "misisng or incorrect fee", per the rejection notice my attorney refiled the app. When refiling the app he sent two checks, one for old fee and the other to make up the difference for new fee. So, USCIS has an option to choose. Now, the Supervisor is insisting us to show evidence of a check being sent (or cashed) in the first place. The Supervisor has asked my attorney to take the time he needs and respond via fax once he's done reconciling. Now, that all the applications have been processed, my attorney has been able to reconcile the check register and confirm that they missed to send the check with my application. He is planning on writing an aplology letter to the Supervisor, do you folks think that Sprvr might receipt the app or reject ?
Given, the July fiasco, Fee increase, and the number of applications attorney's had to process these clerical errors are bound to happen I doubt if USCIS will show any leniency in this. Please let me know if any one is in a similar situation.
If the supervisor rejects the application (as its incomplete) what would be options ? Can I write a letter to USCIS director and explain him the situation and ask him to reconsider it ? Bottom line, why cannot they give us a second chance. It's evident that USCIS has done mistakes as well (improper fee rejections etc). I do understand that there is no law requiring them to return my app on time (in fact they kept it for 95 days before they rejected), if they returned my app on time I would have had a chance to return it back with fee. Any thoughts ? Thanks.
This is one BIG STUPID mistake by your lawyer that can potentially ruin your life. I am hoping for the best for you on the other hand I wish the stupid attorney of yours should be sued in case your application is not accepted.
Hi, my 485 was rejected initially for "misisng or incorrect fee", per the rejection notice my attorney refiled the app. When refiling the app he sent two checks, one for old fee and the other to make up the difference for new fee. So, USCIS has an option to choose. Now, the Supervisor is insisting us to show evidence of a check being sent (or cashed) in the first place. The Supervisor has asked my attorney to take the time he needs and respond via fax once he's done reconciling. Now, that all the applications have been processed, my attorney has been able to reconcile the check register and confirm that they missed to send the check with my application. He is planning on writing an aplology letter to the Supervisor, do you folks think that Sprvr might receipt the app or reject ?
Given, the July fiasco, Fee increase, and the number of applications attorney's had to process these clerical errors are bound to happen I doubt if USCIS will show any leniency in this. Please let me know if any one is in a similar situation.
If the supervisor rejects the application (as its incomplete) what would be options ? Can I write a letter to USCIS director and explain him the situation and ask him to reconsider it ? Bottom line, why cannot they give us a second chance. It's evident that USCIS has done mistakes as well (improper fee rejections etc). I do understand that there is no law requiring them to return my app on time (in fact they kept it for 95 days before they rejected), if they returned my app on time I would have had a chance to return it back with fee. Any thoughts ? Thanks.
nomorelogins
11-16 04:23 PM
your pd needs to be current for being allocated a visa number.
they process ( fp/namecheck etc ) and you eventually become documentarily ready. but still pd needs to be current to get GC
eligible_for_visa_num_alloc = pd_current && documentraily_ready && visa_number_available
they process ( fp/namecheck etc ) and you eventually become documentarily ready. but still pd needs to be current to get GC
eligible_for_visa_num_alloc = pd_current && documentraily_ready && visa_number_available
keshtwo
07-09 05:50 PM
As long as 2003/2004/2005 folks who have already-filed stay in low numbers it might indicate good PD movement in those years (since numbers wont be used up so soon and USCIS/DOS might have to move dates forward to start pushing out approvals. New people will then file and the usage will climb and dates slow down again).
If, on the other hand USCIS is sitting on tons of 2003/2004 PD I-485s, then date movement is going to be slow
gc_chahiye - Is it possible to somehow keep the results of the first poll in the main page? It is the only data we have which comes anywhere near the real data, and it would provide good reference.
If, on the other hand USCIS is sitting on tons of 2003/2004 PD I-485s, then date movement is going to be slow
gc_chahiye - Is it possible to somehow keep the results of the first poll in the main page? It is the only data we have which comes anywhere near the real data, and it would provide good reference.